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Dr. Ben Goertzel, a renowned scientist and artificial intelligence entrepreneur, discussed blockchain technology on Joe Rogan's popular podcast. Dr. Goertzel is an author of artificial intelligence and a research professor at Xiamen University of Technology, in China. Alongside his academic efforts, Dr. Goertzel is also involved in several entrepreneurial ventures in the fintech, robotics and AI sectors.
He is the founder and CEO of SingularityNET, a blockchain-based artificial intelligence market. The SingularityNET platform is designed to allow anyone to create, share and monetize large-scale AI services. In December of last year, the project created its own token (AGI) and had an incredible ICO success, raising $ 36 million in just one minute and despite the down AGI markets it rose 20.84% against ETH in the # 39; last month:
This is not the first time that blockchain and cryptocurrencies have been discussed in Joe Rogan's podcast, as Andreas Antonopoulos has been a regular guest on the show since 2014.
During the interview, the dott. Goertzel discussed several topics related to technology. He explained the technological singularity and discussed the artificial intelligence, blockchain technology and the theory of simulated reality.
Joe Rogan: Open-source is self-explanatory in its title. But blockchain is a source of confusion for many people. Can you explain it?
Dr. Goertzel: Of course, I mean that the blockchain itself is almost an improper term. So, things are confused on every level. We should start with the idea of a distributed ledger, which is basically like a spreadsheet or a distributed excel database. It's just an information store, which is not stored in one place, but there are copies in many different places. Every time my copy is updated, the copy of all the others must also be updated. This is a distributed master book and is part of the distributed calculation.
Now, what makes it more interesting is when decentralized control overlaps that. So imagine having this database distributed, there are copies stored in thousands of places but to update it is necessary as 500 of those 1000 people who own the copies to vote "yes, let's do this update". So you have a distributed archive of data and have a democratic voting mechanism to determine when all these copies can be updated together. So, what you have is a mechanism for storing and updating data controlled in a democratic way by the group participants, rather than by anyone's central controller. And this can have all kinds of advantages. First of all, it means that there is no controller that can become a thief and ruin without telling anyone and it also means that no fool can pick up a gun and shoot him for which data updates remain.
It is democratically controlled by everyone. You can have people all over the world and updates to this entire distributed data store are made by a democratic decision of all participants. Then when cryptography arrives, when I vote I do not have to say, "Yes, this is Ben Goertzel voting for this update". It is only "ID number 1357264", so encryption is used to ensure that the same user is to vote every time without the passport number.
Joe Rogan: What is ironic is that it is probably one of the best ways to actually vote in this country?
Dr. Goertzel: There are many applications for this. This is the basic mechanism, but where the blockchain comes from is like a data structure. The data is stored in a chain of blocks, in which each block contains data. The thing is not that all the so-called blockchains also use a chain of blocks, some use a tree or a block chart.
Joe Rogan: Is it a bad term? Is it like "AI", one of those terms with which we are stuck?
Dr. Goertzel: Yes, it is one of those terms with which we are stuck even if it is no longer technically precise. I do not know another word of order for this. It is a distributed register with cryptography and decentralized control. Blockchain is the word of order that was born for this.
Now what interested me in the blockchain was the idea of decentralized control, this was very important to me even before the bitcoin was invented. A global brain is evolving on the planet, involving humans, computers and communication devices. And we do not want this global brain to be controlled by a small elite, we want the global brain to be controlled in a decentralized way.
This really is the beauty of the blockchain infrastructure. What interested me in the practical technologies of blockchain was precisely when Ethereum came out.
Joe Rogan: What is Ethereum?
Dr. Goertzel: The first blockchain technology was bitcoin. Ethereum is another cryptocurrency, which is the number two of cryptocurrency at this time. However, Ethereum arrived with a really nice software framework. It is not just digital money like bitcoin, ethereum has a programming language, called solidity, that derives from it. And this programming language allows you to write so-called smart contracts. And once again it is a kind of improper term, because an intelligent contract does not need to be either intelligent or a contract.
Joe Rogan: What does "smart contract" mean?
Dr. Goertzel: It's like a programmable transaction. You can schedule a legal contract or schedule a financial transaction. An intelligent contract is persistent software that embodies a secure encrypted transaction between multiple parties. Virtually anything on a backend of a bank or website, or a transaction between two online companies, can be intelligently written in smart contracts securely. And then it would be automated in a simple and standard way.
The vision that Vitalik Buterin, the main creator of ethereum, is basically making the Internet a giant computing mechanism, rather than a mechanism for storing and retrieving information. It turns the Internet into a gigantic computer, but it creates a really simple programming language for scripting transactions between different computers and parts on the Internet. You have encryption, democratic decision making and distributed storage space of information programmed into this world computer. This was a really interesting idea and the blockchain ethereum and the solidarity programming language made it really easy to do it. I saw this and I taught: "wow, now we finally have the set of tools needed to implement this".
Joe Rogan: How popular it is [Ethereum]?
Dr. Goertzel: It is very popular Basically, almost every ICO that has been done in the last two years has been done on the blockchain ethereum. What has happened in the last two years is that a group of people realized that it is possible to use this ethereum programming framework to create a new cryptocurrency. Like new artificial money you can try to get people to use.
Joe Rogan: Does the value of fluctuation of cryptocurrencies worry you?
Dr. Goertzel: In my opinion the creation of artificial money is a small part of the potential of what can be done with the blockchain toolkit. It happened to become popular initially because that's where the money is (laughter). It's money and this is interesting for people. But on the other hand, what really happens is the creation of a world computer. These are scripts, with a simple programming language, all sorts of information and value transactions. These are decentralized voting mechanisms, it concerns the possibility of sending data and processing them for one another, the automation of supply chains, shipping and e-commerce.
Basically, just as computers and the Internet started with a small number of applications and then prevailed on almost anything, it is the same with blockchain technology. It started with digital money, but basic technology is about to pervade almost everything. Because there is almost no human search domain that can not use security through cryptography, a sort of participatory decision-making process, and then distribute information storage.
And these things are also valuable for artificial intelligence, which is the way I started doing it. If you're doing a very powerful AI, which will gradually grow to become smarter, you should be able to engage a large group of people and AI in participatory decision-making. AI should be able to store information in a widely distributed way and should certainly use security and encryption to validate the parties involved. These are the key things behind blockchain technology. The fact that the blockchain started with artificial coins, for me is a detail of the story. Just like the fact that the Internet started as a nuclear alarm system. He did it, it's good for that! But as it happens it's even better for many other things.
